religion – Bruce Llama

Plenty of Jesuses

Bruce — Sat, 04 Oct 2014 22:49:43 +0000

Sometimes all you need to do Uncle Billy is take the next step:

There are in fact plenty of Jesuses out there. Most are the creation of men’s minds, instead of the Jesus of Scripture. Thus we have the hippy Jesus, the lefty Jesus, the social reformer Jesus, the good example Jesus, the social justice Jesus, the greenie Jesus, the socialist Jesus, the pacifist Jesus, the anti-capitalist Jesus, the homosexualist Jesus, the universalist Jesus, and so on.

A slight tweak – “all are the creation of men’s minds”

And this:

Overwhelmingly today we hear about a Jesus who judges no one, who accepts everyone, who loves everyone and everything indiscriminately, who would never reject anybody, and who is there to meet all our needs, fulfil all our desires, and to grant us our every wish.

That’s exactly your jesus, dear old Uncle Billy, regardless of how hard you try, you want your god to fulfil all your desires and grant all your wishes. Sure, you pretend that it’s the other way around, but if your honest with yourself, the type of world your god wants is exactly the type of world you want.

Blood on the Floor!

Bruce — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:35:34 +0000

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Get a load of this – a priest blogging about children lining up in church and being given a wafer and a sip of wine. To the catholics this is seen as eating the body and drinking the blood of jesus. How nice.

“Even if you don’t like the taste,” I told them, “remember that it won’t really be wine at Mass. It will look the same and taste the same, but it will be the Precious Blood of Christ.

So, it looks the same as wine, tastes the same as wine, but really its blood of a someone who died 2000 years ago? Or, if it looks like wine, tastes like wine then it’s probably wine.

Then there’s a little bit about not drinking the wine from the cup, but sticking the wafer into the wine and eating that.

So I explained to the children that the Catholic Church doesn’t allow that, because the Precious Blood might drip onto the floor.

Better on the floor than being pissed into a toilet and flushed away with shit I guess. But as jesus commands.

After the magic words, this is the real flesh of jesus

God Did It!

Bruce — Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:17:00 +0000

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At the Institute for Creation Research in northwest Dallas, a group of nine Ph.D.s from places like Harvard and Los Alamos National Laboratory say all that molecules-to-man stuff is nonsense. And they’re out to prove it.

The biblical story of Genesis is literally true, they say. God created the heavens, earth and life in six sequential days lasting about 24 hours each.

OK, more christian need to prove that the bible is true, despite decades of evidence to the contrary!

The universe is not 13.8 billion years old (as astrophysicists calculate by measuring the rate of cosmic expansion), the earth is not 4.5 billion years old (as geologists conclude by using radioisotope dating on ancient rocks), and humans did not split from chimpanzees and gorillas about 4 million to 7 million years ago (as suggested by genetics and the fossil record).

As I said, despite the evidence.

“Our attempt is to demonstrate that the Bible is accurate, not just religiously authoritative,” said Henry Morris III, CEO of the nonprofit with a 49-person payroll and an annual budget in the $7 million range.

How much? $7mil a year, say it takes them 10 years. Serious amount of money that someone is throwing at the concept. You can buy a 20kg bag of rice for about $150. Imagine how many bags you could buy over 10 years. (At least 460,000) Could feed lots of people! But oh no, makes much more sense to plough your money into stupid projects that the rest of the world is laughing about.

“The rationale behind it is this: If God really does exist, he shouldn’t be lying to us,” he said. “And if he’s lying to us right off the bat in the book of Genesis, we’ve got some real problems.”

What? If god is lying we’ve got some real problems? We have real problems, the planet is heating up, bees are dying, people are starving.

If god really exist, rice wouldn’t cost so much.

Pray for all powerful peace

Bruce — Thu, 12 Jun 2014 04:44:09 +0000

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Prayer is all-powerful. Let us use it to bring peace to the Middle East and peace to the world. #weprayforpeace

— Pope Francis (@Pontifex) June 7, 2014

Did you know that the pope did twitter?

This tweet has been re-tweeted about 6,000 times, not bad I guess. Franky-poo seems to have over 4 million followers, I bet most of them aren’t catholic or christian.

Anyway, it’ll be news to his god that prayer is all-powerful, pretty sure the deity had that one down pat. It’s great that so many people see prayer as the answer.

Checking the middle east – nope, no peace yet, pray harder.

Checking the world – nope, no peace yet, pray harder.

Maybe they’re doing it wrong?

Lyle says Thy Will Be Done – just like he wants

Bruce — Thu, 20 Feb 2014 11:58:14 +0000

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Over at the ACL our new bestest mate Straight Lyle is banging on about the lords prayer being said in Parliament. The Greens are trying to get rid of the prayer. He thinks it should stay, no surprises there, and there’s no surprises in what I think either.

Since 1901, the prayer has been recited at the start of each sitting day in the senate and house of representatives by the president and speaker respectively.

So? In 1901 we hanged people, we thought the indigenous people needed to be eradicated and women couldn’t vote. My, how times have changed.

Australia did not become what it is in a vacuum. Christianity had a profound impact on the development of western institutions, including parliament.

Religion has abused its position in Australia. It was trusted with our most vulnerable children and it abused them. How’s that for a profound fucking impact.

While not everyone in Australia is Christian (although more than 60 per cent tell the census they are), nothing changes the fact that Christianity made a significant contribution to making Australia what it is today.

That means that almost 40% of Australians are not christian. Of the 60% that you’re claiming Straight Lyle, how many do you think wake up every morning and say the lords prayer. Apart from you. I’d say about 3 or 4 people. Claiming that 60% of Australia has the same understanding of christianity as you is a load of shit mate.

It is a simple fact that Christianity is part of our cultural heritage in a way that other religions are not. That is no disrespect to them. The ethics and ideas of other religions simply did not have the same impact on the formation of western values and the Australian nation.

In the early years of white settlement the Irish hated the catholics and spent their time killing each other. Great ethics

As the pre-European peoples of this land, indigenous people, are of course a huge part of our cultural heritage. Recognition of their cultural heritage is also acknowledged in parliament each day and that is fair enough. The Greens have not sought to remove this.

I don’t know about the phrase “pre-European peoples of this land” where the fuck did that come from. Did it occur to you Straight Lyle that the reason we recognise the first Australians culture is because we murdered them? We took their culture and utterly destroyed it. We stole their children. The acknowledgement of the land we meet on is way more important than some white bloke muttering a religious prayer.

Most of us would condemn the cutting down of a 113 year old tree, but when it comes to our cultural heritage the Greens are happy to fell any vestiges of the values of our past.

How wrong you are. Most of us don’t give a shit. If we did we’d still have lots of bushland and would prevent more logging. Which tree did you fall out of?

There is a clash of ideas and values occurring in our political discourse. That’s fine, that’s healthy, that’s democracy.

Suggesting that someone’s faith has no place in the workplace, as Senator Di Natale did, is anti-democratic. Why are Di Natale’s views superior?

A clash now is it? Part of democracy is being elected and putting forward ideas. Once you get elected you then get to put forward ideas and everyone gets a vote. That’s democracy. Here we have a Senator using democracy to push forward an idea, and in true democratic fashion it was defeated. On what basis do you think he is anti-democratic.

Whether people believe in God or not, the ideas of the teacher Jesus embodied in the Lord’s Prayer are worth reflecting on.

If you don’t believe in god you’re not likely to give the lord’s prayer a second thought. But let me give it a second thought for you. It’s shit.

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.

Seriously, this is the start of a prayer? Telling this god fella that his name is holy and where he lives?

Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

The kingdom isn’t coming, and if the same will is happening in heaven then heaven is pretty fucked up too.

Give us this day our daily bread.

Certainly this works, there are no hungry people in the world because all the christians pray every day for bread.

and forgive us our trespasses

Yeah, MPs need to get on their knees and pray for forgiveness because they’re really gonna fuck everyone over.

as we forgive those who trespass against us.

Unless there is some sort of punishment we can enact and lock them up.

and lead us not into temptation.

What? Why the fuck would god lead us into temptation. Oh wait, he put that tree in the garden and Adam and Eve got tempted. What a prick.

but deliver us from evil

Well that’s not working, so much evil, just look at what we do to asylum seekers.

For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory for ever and ever.

Australia is a sovereign nation, I know this because the government has a program called sovereign borders. So the power and the glory really seems to sit with whoever calls herself Prime Minister.

Amen

Yeah, whatever. The lords prayer is a crock of shit, it does nothing and means nothing.

The idea that humans are not the font of all power is especially worth meditating on. Especially in parliament.

We are the font of all power, we exercise that power at the ballot box. All those christians prayed to get elected and they didn’t. The power is with the people, not a pretend deity.

Meanwhile, the Greens have vowed to keep fighting to remove the prayer in the same way they are relentlessly campaigning to redefine marriage.

Oh yeah, don’t forget the gays. Be sure to stick the boots in again, just to make your great christian point that the Greens have no right to attempt to change the system because they’re on the inside and you’re not. They are entitled to keep fighting for what they believe. Nothing wrong with that.

It is time to push back on their vision to deconstruct our civic and family life.

And yet, here they are elected. So they are representing their view of the world based on the people that elected them. Did you ever think you have the wrong idea about democracy?

They are a small political party but they have a big voice. Seasoned with grace, we should start to use our voice. Silence is no longer an option.

The ACL is a small party of christian right-wing nut jobs who have no political clout. They’re just pretending. Your voice, Straight Lyle is anything but silent. You and your ACL have been bellowing for years about insignificant matters instead of getting out there and helping real people. Instead you use your money to fund political fights against duly elected representatives. That sounds pretty un-democratic to me.

Pope Franky is still catholic

Bruce — Sat, 11 Jan 2014 22:30:38 +0000

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Anyone would think that the new pope Franky was a good thing. He may seem to like the gays and the atheists and even the poor. I haven’t yet heard anything decent come out of his mouth that can’t be read as nothing more than catholic traditional teachings. Basically the church is still a blight on our society, regardless of who the head man is. Sure, sure, he wants to live in a little apartment and drive his own car, good for him. That’s a bit like changing one light globe in your house to something more energy-efficient and pretending you just saved the world from global warming.

In his first every christmas message as the pope, Franky had a call to atheists.

“Peace is a daily commitment. It is a homemade peace,” he said.

Looking for something here that may suggest that the leaders of nations should be working toward peace… no, not here, maybe further on.

He said that people of other religions were also praying for peace, and – departing from his prepared text – he urged atheists to join forces with believers.

“I invite even non-believers to desire peace. (Join us) with your desire, a desire that widens the heart. Let us all unite, either with prayer or with desire, but everyone, for peace,” he said, drawing sustained applause from the crowd.

You lot have prayed for peace for thousands of years and yet it still hasn’t happened. Why is that? Doesn’t your god listen to you? Instead of preaching to the poor little people, why not issue the challenge to the leaders of the nations that continue to throw their resources at fighting battles about stupid things. And to suggest that ‘non-believers’ need to be invited to desire peace is such a crock of Franky poo. It sounds like atheists really want to be at war!

“God is peace: let us ask him to help us to be peacemakers each day, in our life, in our families, in our cities and nations, in the whole world,” he said.

Oh bullshit, open your bible Franky:

Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.¹

If you want peace in the world the last thing you need is a catholic telling you how to get it. All around the world we have religious people praying for our armed forces, that’s code for wanting god on your side to destroy the enemy without causing any harm to our guys.

In his speech, Francis asked God to “look upon the many children who are kidnapped, wounded and killed in armed conflicts, and all those who are robbed of their childhood and forced to become soldiers”.

It’s a pity that god isn’t being asked to look upon those priests that rape the children and prevent it. It’s a nice sentiment but really the problem isn’t the children, it’s the adults that use and abuse them.

This pope if he really wants to make a difference in the world needs to call out the people who are actually causing the wars, the ones that are really abusing the kids. It’s the political leaders of this world that need to be named and shamed.

Start with Tony Abbott and asylum seekers. Putin and gay rights, Obama and Afghanistan.

Yes, it’s in the bible, Jesus said it ↩

Are you a Virgin?

Bruce — Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:35:41 +0000

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Something that christians like Great Uncle Billy the Not So Virgin Like to ask is “Are you a virgin?”

Sex is very important to him and when you have it with someone else is also really important because as far as Great Uncle Billy, NSVL, is concerned you can only have sex when you’re married. He ignores that forever people have had sex in and out of marriage, even his own god got a single woman pregnant, although apparently she was still a virgin afterwards. And who can forget Lot wanting to send his virgin daughters out to be raped by the townsfolk. Virginity is high up on the list of godly things.

So, Great Uncle Billy NSVL asks:

So what is it with people publicly selling their virginity nowadays? Have we sunk that far as a culture that people have to take the wonderful gift of sex and degrade it in such a way, just to get their 15 minutes of fame?

I’ve seen billboards everywhere about young people wanting to sell their first bonking rights, haven’t you? And why is sex a gift? It’s just what we do. Yes, it’s bloody good fun and makes you feel good. But it’s hardly a gift. Maybe I can start wrapping a ribbon around my people poker and giving it away as a gift.

Human sexuality is an intensely beautiful yet private affair – or at least should be.

Actually human sexuality isn’t so private, every time you walk down the street with the good Mrs Great Uncle Billy who we assume is no virgin, you declare your sexuality. Every time I kiss my love llama I declare my sexuality. Sometimes we do it right out in the public. Kiss that is. Sex may be private but even then it’s sort of readily available for those who don’t want much privacy.

Yet when it is paraded all over the world it is cheapened, coarsened, and dragged through the mud. Of course our culture as a whole has done a terrific job of trivialising sex, and turning this act into a mere circus sideshow. So these latest moves should not surprise us.

Oh yes, side-show. Prostitution, rape, rape inside marriage, forced marriages to have the right blood lines, sex is such a well-regarded thing Billy. What a crappy over simplified view of the world he has.

If you are not aware of what I am referring to, consider these two recent examples. The first concerns a Siberian teenager. The story goes like this: “A Russian teenager who sold her virginity through an online auction site has been given the go-ahead by police to seal the deal.

Two recent examples? You asked what is it with people selling their virginity, parading it all around the world and you give us two examples? You ask if we have sunk so far that sex is degraded and you give us two examples, and one of them isn’t even about selling virginity. Methinks you may be getting a bit excited by this Billy.

Anyway, I’ll spare you the article, in a nutshell some Siberian woman wants to sell her virginity and she’s not breaking any laws. The way Billy carries on you’d think everyone in the world was selling their first shag. And big deal. It’s not like unscrupulous people haven’t been marketing virgins. If some one wants to sell it off, why the hell not! Wish I had thought of it, I’d have made a pretty penny or two when I had a full head of Llama fur.

And an English example from last month is even more revolting. Consider this story: “A gay student plans to lose his virginity live on stage – all in the name of art. Clayton Pettet, a 19-year-old art student at Central Saint Martins College of Arts and Design in London, plans to have gay sex in front of a crowd of between 50 and 100 people in London on Jan. 25, 2014, for a project called ‘Art School Stole My Virginity,’ according to the Daily Star. He and his anonymous partner will have sex until completion and then hold a Q&A with the audience afterward.

So, for some strange reason, this rather out there ‘gay’ individual is going to have his first ‘gay’ sex on stage. It’s in the name of art, so it’s ok. No one is being harmed, it’s not like Clayton is going to be able to do it more than once. I can’t see an issue here. Again, it’s one virgin having sex on stage in the name of art. Not the whole world.

So what can one say? One is left dumbfounded by the sexual perversion and moral freefall occurring all around us.

How about you say nothing? No one is asking you to go to the play or to buy a young girls virginity. It’s not clear just what the sexual perversion is. Granted, both are a little different and odd, but it’s not the same as having sex with a rampant alpaca now is it? There is nothing perverse here. One girl wants to have sex with a man and get some money for it, one man wants to have sex with his boy friend on stage. Nothing perverse as such.

The really tragic thing is nobody seems to be shocked by this sort of stuff anymore. No one seems to care and even raise an eyebrow about such things.

But I think that’s where you are wrong, people are shocked, or at the very least raising an eyebrow. The reason this even makes the news is because it’s different, odd, unusual. If it was as common as getting a speeding ticket then we’d never hear about it. However, it’s still a non-issue. We all fuck and we all do it for the first time. For 99.99% of the population it’s with someone special, that first time, for the rest of us its a bit more out there. That is indeed remarkable in the current culture. When you can buy a virgin on the street or get two for the price of one, then we can talk about moral outrage. We’d need to be charging GST for starters.

Our culture has reached such a point of moral and spiritual disintegration that we read an item like this in the newspaper as we would the daily weather report. Our capacity to exhibit some moral outrage at our decadent and dying society seems to have all but disappeared.

Our culture is disintegration because two people are loosing their virginity is unconventional ways? Really? And what point has been reached? Two people. TWO FUCKING PEOPLE, that’s it. The suggestion that you read it like you read the weather report is laughable. I’m not sure what’s sadder, that you still get your weather from the newspaper or that you think this story is mundane everyday life.

How many more young lives must be ruined before we wake up as a culture and start saying enough is enough?

Two young people are doing it, and just maybe this will be the thing that enhances their lives. Our Russian friend will no doubt move to a bigger and better place and perhaps get a decent education with her winnings, and the gay stage-fucking homosexual may be the next Superman. Who knows. It’s doubtful that their lives will be in ruin because the Great Uncle Billy NSVL doesn’t approve of sexy things.

What is a really good case for enough is enough however, is for ratbags like Great Uncle Billy NSVL taking the high road in some mock outrage. Pretending to care about things that don’t actually matter. Perhaps he could spend some time considering how to help the 9.3 million people in Syria that need humanitarian assistance.

May your first fuck be glorious.

Pastor Danny is Wailing and Screaming at the Sky

Bruce — Sat, 26 Oct 2013 01:40:52 +0000

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Here we are in October and New South Wales are in the grip of a major catastrophe with bush fires burning out of control, causing much destruction.

The tragic events brings religious nutters out of their homes to invoke the name of their god to help. I blogged about the recent activities of our favourite pastor Danny Nalliah, to recap, he had a dream and he thinks god told him to go to the bushfire area and pray for rain. So he did.

He actually thinks that he made it rain!

Yesterday, Pr Daniel led a prayer meeting in the Blue Mountains area about ten minutes from one of the major brushfires.

He ignored the advice from emergency services that people should stay away. What an arrogant man, not only is he claiming to be within 10 minutes of a major wild fire, he’s dragged along 30 people to pray with him.

While they were praying, the heavens did open and a good soaking rain started falling where they were, resulting in them having to move undercover. The weather conditions completely changed with no dangerous winds and 23 degrees temperature.

The real test for this sort of shit is whether it would have rained anyway. Of course it would have! Just so we’re clear here too – there wasn’t enough rain to put the fires out, and while it helped the emergency continued and in fact the fires flared up again the next day.

This morning at 7.30am, Pr Daniel was in contact with people from the Blue Mountains, particularly several pastors, who confirmed that the soaking rain (in some places up to 5 mm of rain) continued all through the night in almost all of the bushfire affected areas.

But not enough to actually stop the bushfires. Maybe they didn’t pray hard enough.

The good news is that all four major bushfires have been downgraded this morning from emergency to watch and act.

Yes, that’s right, but not because you bunch of extremely silly people spent time in a park wailing at the sky. What you won’t hear is that the next day the fires flared again and were again upgraded to ’emergency’.

Pr Daniel has activated an action plan of prayer from 12-1pm today Wednesday 23rd October.

How is praying considered an action plan?

In the comments on the blog Norm says this:

Norm Bishop

22 October 2013

Before I picked up Pastor Daniel Nalliah from Mascot this morning, Jesus began to answer Pastor Daniel’s prayer. It began to rain requiring me to use my car’s windscreen wipers.

Wow, how powerful is Danny, it’s raining before he even gets off the plane!!

The rain continued through our prayer and praise time. At the end we believed that we had achieved what God had called us together to do.

Prayer and praise time… interesting concept… anyway, why does god need you nutters at all? Surely it would have been easier to prevent the fire and destruction by making it rain before it got so bad? Your god is a bastard.

Our God answers prayer and particularly when we obey his voice and do quickly what is asked of us.

Really? So nobody else was praying for rain before Danny arrived to wail at the sky? You know what he prayed for? He prayed for other pastors who think abortion is ok, he prayed for marriage and he prayed to stop suicides. He prayed for those who have had abortions. He actually thinks that the reason for the fire is because people are sinners that have abortions, get divorced or kill themselves. Danny believes that his presence and words of ‘repentance’ are what’s needed to stop a bush fire.

The next day we get another blog post with more insane mumbo jumbo:

We were saddened not to see anyone thank God for the rain on Tuesday night the 22nd of October, because that was the time that the Australian media announced with a great deal of negative hype that it was going to be the worst 24 hours.

Could that be because no gods had anything to do with it? Maybe the sadness is because nobody showed up with TV cameras to film the insanity and simply ignored the outrageous claim that Pastor Danny is able to command god to make it rain.

Well, glory to God for a group of 30 plus believers in Christ Jesus met in the Blue Mountains with Pr Daniel and stormed heaven in repentance and prayer, as the Blue Mountains is very well known for its satanic occult activity.

Only 30. That’s the best you could do? How many believers does it take to shut their eyes and mumble some words to ‘storm’ heaven. Up until now I had no idea that the area was well known, sorry, very well known for its satanic activity. No wonder it was burning!

Be sure to check out these postings by Martin S Pribble. He’s written some excellent blogs about superstition, it seems fitting that he shares my blog post with Pastor Danny. Martin writes this:

It’s when we perform a random act (such as screaming at the sky asking for rain) and the random act is randomly “successful” (i.e. it rains) that we conflate the two unrelated events.

The world needs more common sense and less screaming at the sky.

Smashing Superstitions – An Introduction to Personal Mythology

Smashing Superstitions – Even Pigeons Can Do It

Smashing Superstitions – A Way to Divide

Nalliah calls for Rain Dance to douse Bushfires

Bruce — Tue, 22 Oct 2013 02:10:01 +0000

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Bushfires are raging in New South Wales, but the weather may be about to change.

It's pouring in Lithgow! #NSWFires @ABCNews24

— Michael Rowland (@mjrowland68) October 22, 2013

Which is good news.

Our defeated Senator candidate, Pasta Danny had a dream!

I told him that I would pray through the night and if God gave me a clear word, I would come there to pray. In the early hours of this morning, I had two dreams. In the 1st dream I was with this Pastor friend and a few others on our knees in an open park in the Blue Mountains very close to the bushfires, praying and crying unto the Lord to send the appropriate winds and rains to stop the bushfires. Moments later, I had a 2nd dream in which I saw a news reporter on the 4:30pm news broadcast stating, ‘Sudden weather change brings hope to put the bushfires out.’”

Woo hoo – a prediction!

He goes on to say:

In response, we at CTFM have called an urgent prayer meeting which Pr Daniel will be personally leading from 3-4pm today Tuesday 22nd October in the Blue Mountains at Glenbrook Park, Cnr Ross St & Park St, Glenbrook. Near tennis courts. Turn off Gt Westetn Hwy at Tourist Infirmation Centre / Caltex Service Station. (approximately 5-10 minutes’ drive from bushfires).

Pr Daniel stated, “I believe that as the people of God unite this afternoon from 3-4pm to repent and pray as in 2 Chronicles 7:13-14, there will be a positive change in the weather in the next 24 hours with the appropriate winds and rains to stop the bushfires, despite the weather bureau’s current predictions.”

So rather than stay away from a dangerous area he is actually inviting people to drive into a bushfire area to pray for rain.

I thought the belief was that god was everywhere – is the prayer somehow more magical when you’re in danger of being burned alive?

So, urgent call, get there before it starts pouring down!

I hope the authorities charge him with being a public nuisance and run him out of the state.

Stupid fuck wit.

Canberra’s Nutters Gather to Protest

Bruce — Mon, 21 Oct 2013 23:10:20 +0000

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The government in the Australian Capital Territory is about to pass legislation making it legal for same-sex couples to get married in the ACT. It’s an interesting step for an Australian state to make, although the Federal Government may attempt to override the new laws through the courts.

Enter the ACL, those wacky christians issued a media release called “Statement by Abrahamic Faith Leaders of Canberra” – that’s a nice way of saying the Jews, Christians and the Muslims.

Below is a copy of a statement of faith by seven faith leaders here in Canberra that was released today ahead of the ACT Marriage Equality Bill that is expected to be debated tomorrow. Whilst not organised by the ACL, the ACL welcomes the statement by the group.

Goodness me, so the ACL wasn’t needed! Shunned by their own faithful!

Seventy percent of Australians identify with an Abrahamic religion – Christianity, Islam and Judaism.

Yes, 70% may identify, but that doesn’t mean that they all agree on everything.

As leaders of several of these faith traditions, we have gathered to share our concerns about the ACT Government’s proposed same sex marriage legislation.

These leaders do no represent the 70% by a long shot, trying to argue from authority that they simply don’t have.

We are concerned for the long-term risks of such a Bill for our society.

You are? What are they? Tell us what those long-term risks are? I bet you can’t.

While affirming the inherent dignity of all human beings,

Except if you’re anything other than heterosexual. You’d sooner sack anyone that isn’t just like you. You’d sooner say that the love I have for my love llama is somehow second rate. Some of you that have signed this media release think that gays should be stoned to death. So much for dignity.

our faith traditions also affirm the traditional concept of marriage between a man and a woman as being for the good of the individual, the family and society.

Yes, I agree. Marriage between a man and a woman is good for the individual, the family and society. So is marriage between two people of the same sex. Everyone should be able to get married. In your particular faith feel free to celebrate marriage in the way you want, and those that don’t believe as you can get married and celebrate in the way they like.

We invite the wider community to join with us in calling for the Bill to be subject to community consultation through the normal Legislative Assembly Committee process.

Oh yes, that’s it, it’s not enough that you think you represent 70% of the population you now want the other 30% to join in and see the world your way. Great way to show dignity to each human being. And while you’re at it why don’t you call into question the legitimacy of the passage of the bill in the duly elected parliament of the ACT. Find a way to delay it so you can start spreading more of your vile innuendo.

Imam Adama Konda, Canberra Islamic Centre

Islam – founded by a goat herder and child sex abuser.

Arnold Cummins, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

Founded by a man who transcribed the holy book from brass tablets with magic glasses. Both which then disappeared.

Pastor Sean Stanton, Australian Christian Churches, Canberra

Believe that the bible is accurate.

Bishop Trevor Edwards, Anglican Diocese of Canberra and Goulburn

Marriage is so important that the church was established so the King of England could have a divorce to marry another women.

Pastor BJ Hayes, Canberra National Adventist Church

Will throw you out of their church if you are gay.

Monsignor John Woods, Catholic Archdiocese of Canberra and Goulburn

Thinks that bread can turn into their god so you can eat him.

Rabbi Shmuel Feldman, Rabbi for Canberra and Region.

Should apologies for inflicting this bunch of nutters on the rest of the world.

Apparently they couldn’t find anyone from the Satanist Society.

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